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Anchored [Marital Issues] / Re: I am So Ashamed
Last post by Forum Administrator - May 11, 2009, 01:08:19 am
Hi MrD. Sounds like Fireproof may have given you a good inroad for discussion. Did you two discuss what in the movie resembled your marriage? I commend you for the things that you are doing. It doesn't sound like you're lazy at all (so you should stop saying that). Also, you don't need her to make you a list of what you need to do. It sounds like she may want you to take more of a proactive approach. You are, after all, her loving leader. Make your own list, or better yet, look around and see what needs to be done... and then do it well.

I have a 7 yr old son, and one of the things that I find annoying is having to tell him to do the same things over and over again. But he's 7, and you're... not. You're a man. Put away "childish things." If you're not sure how to be a good leader in your marriage, find someone who is a good leader in his marriage (make sure the wife agrees with that assessment  ;)) and get some pointers. If you can't find anyone, there are other resources available and we can help with that. You do, however, have two great resources readily available and that's the word (your bible) and prayer. If you need some scriptural references, let us know. And be sure that you talk to the Lord about what you're talking to us about. He is always willing to help you.
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The Lighthouse [Singles' Issues] / Re: Why the rush
Last post by Forum Administrator - May 11, 2009, 12:41:38 am
Hi lenaj.
Quotethings are just continually going down hill. We argue all the time and I just feel like he refuses to accept responsibility for his own actions and wants to blame me for everything. Now don't get me wrong I'm no angel and by no means perfect. I think things could work if we worked together.  But he is so mean towards me because I do not feel we are at the point of engagement. I feel our foundation is not a stable one...I don't want to break things off with him but I don't feel we are ready for engagement just yet.  It almost seems like he refused to try to move forward because I wont agree with him that we are ready.

Perfection is not required for a good relationship, but patience, consideration, and understanding is. Why is he in such a hurry? If all you have said is true, why don't you want to break off with him? Red flags seem to be flapping everywhere. Granted, things could work if you work together, as you said, but if he's not willing to do that, or even rationally discuss your reasons for wanting to wait, you are wasting your time.
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The Lighthouse [Singles' Issues] / Re: Why the rush
Last post by Gracious - May 09, 2009, 11:39:31 pm
Hi lenaj & Welcome to the forums, :)

Two things to think about ... Ambition vs. the will of God for one's life ... Amen?

The former,
Ambition (the drive to be the best that we can be); I'm led that in & of itself, is not a bad thing ... as long as we are Christ - centered in our thoughts & actions.

The latter,
The will of God for one's life (one's divine purpose), can only be given to an individual supernaturally, directly from our Deity.  Confirmation of our purpose comes through others swiftly.  I believe that this is a form of God's grace designed to encourage our hearts & determination.  In the Church, it seems almost sad to say ... but often ... we are bombarded with "ISSUES" Amen?  Problems dumped on us by "ISSUE" ridden leadership, especially if we are not a cookie cutter model of what "they" feel we should be! 

Example ...
If one is not married & one desires to "Pastor" a congregation, of course theirs an "ISSUE", because of the way that many "leaders" have been trained religiously regarding the fact that Pastor "should / must" be married???  Hence, the pressure from your love interest re: his desires concerning marrying you.  I betcha' that THAT (your friend's marital status) could be a factor.  Which is kinda' ironic 'cause Jesus Himself, was anything BUT the status quo ... Amen?  A child conceived by an unwed teenaged girl ... this Son founded the Christian Church & was never ahhh "engaged" in the traditional way, yet we who through faith, have received &  follow Him, "rightously" know Him as Bridegroom.   Deffinitely not a conformer ... Amen?  Yet, He IS A TRANSFORMER!!!  HALLELUJAH!!!

OR

To be fair to our churched leadership, could there perhaps be other concerns (besides him being unmarried) that the leaders of these other churches  see ... that neither you nor he may see?

And I agree with you concerning your hesitation, because it sounds to me as if the Holy Ghost inside of you is warning you NOT to give in to the pressures being placed upon you.  So please continue to listen to your inner voice - the One who is telling you what would "not" be right for you at this time.  What GOD has for you my sista' will be yours & will bring you endless JOY!  And what God does "not" have for you ... He may allow ... BUT ... misery & confusion will follow you & be with  you ... UNTIL ... you trust God enough to release it  & cast it away from you.

You said it best ...

Why the rush?   Especially since your greatest friend (Jesus), is with you, guiding you, strengthening you & YES ... even through all that your dealing with ... blessing you!


Take care & I wish you all the best,  :-*

Gracious
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The Lighthouse [Singles' Issues] / Why the rush
Last post by lenaj - May 08, 2009, 04:39:23 pm
Ok so I have been dating a minister, applying for pastoral positions at various churches, for about 8mts now. And things are just continually going down hill. We argue all the time and I just feel like he refuses to accept responsibility for his own actions and wants to blame me for everything. Now don't get me wrong I'm no angel and by no means perfect. I think things could work if we worked together.  But he is so mean towards me because I do not feel we are at the point of engagement. I feel our foundation is not a stable one. I just don't understand why he is in such a rush to get married. He has given marital counseling before and knows the dangers of rushing.  So why does he do it. I don't want to break things off with him but I don't feel we are ready for engagement just yet.  It almost seems like he refused to try to move forward because I wont agree with him that we are ready. ???
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Anchored [Marital Issues] / Re: I am So Ashamed
Last post by MrD - April 16, 2009, 08:48:20 am
i do sweep, empty the dishwasher, fold the towels, hang the clothes up, feed the dogs, and go outside a cleanup after them each time they go out. we have seen the movie, and after the movie she said that she saw us in there, like it was made after our life's together. i know I am somewhat lazy, but it is because i do not have a list of things to do, and she absolutely refuses to do that, instead she wants me to make the list, and I have no idea what she wants me to do. I would gladly do the if she would give me a list. this has been going on for 29 years. we will go along for awhile happy, and then I do or say something or I don't do something, and it starts getting terrible again. You have to understand I am a laid back person and she is very domineering. and controlling, especially when she gets mad at me, she knows that it drives me crazy when she will not talk to me. Well better go! Thanks for listening!
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Anchored [Marital Issues] / Re: I am So Ashamed
Last post by lenaj - April 15, 2009, 07:45:27 pm
Ok I would love to give you the right Christian words but right now let's try to look at the simple things. It seems to me that she is someone who likes things to be clean. So just sweep the floor everyday. Not when you think it should be done, cause if you like me you will for get so just do it. The dogs, I don't have one but I think they are supposed to be on some type of schedule when they are feed. Finally I would suggest you watch this movie called "FireProof" it has Kirk Cameron in it. Or just go to this site: www.fireproofmymarriage.com

The movie is about things a man did to turn his marraige around, when he didn't even want to.
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Anchored [Marital Issues] / Re: I am So Ashamed
Last post by MrD - April 14, 2009, 08:53:20 am
It's me again, she is mad at me again, only I think it is hurt more than anger. I just can't get this marriage right, I go along for a while, then I do something that sets her off, this time she has been sick with some kind of flu or bad sinuses. She came in one night and I hadn't swept the floor, or anything, because she had not ask me, I know I am supposed to see things like that, and I do sweep the floor, but she does not like the way I sweep. Then the other day she went to bed to take a nap because she still wasn't feeling good, so when she woke up, she was angry because I was sitting on the couch and I failed to feed the dogs I guess.  I wasn't going to do anything to wake her. So now she is not speaking to me, and when I do say something to her she ignores me or she will say something cross to me, like she has hatred toward me. Please pray for me that this laziness will be lifted from me. And that our marriage will be restored!
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Hi JDavidian. Welcome to Deep Waters. I don't want to comment too much on your husband's perspective at this time, but if he wants to come out of that struggle, there are people and resources to help him. One such resource is the Every Man's Battle sexual purity workshop for men to help him "win the war on sexual temptation." He can also phone 1-800-NEW-HOPE. There is a workshop every month. The locations are not posted in order to protect the privacy of those attending the workshop. The exact locations of each month's workshop are given to registered attendees only. Click the Every Man's Battle link for more information. On that same page, he can also sign up for a "weekly battle plan" a free resource. Sign up is for 18+ men only. There are also Every Man's Battle Support Groups all over the country that perhaps he can get involved with.

For you, I recommend you click on the "Wives, are you fighting your own battle?" link and see what resources are available to you in the online discussion group. There is also a 3-day workshop for wives of men struggling in this area. Description from New Life:
QuoteWhen a married man is struggling with sexual integrity problems, the emotional effects on the wife are often devastating.  All of the hopes of fidelity and security that began on the wedding day may be shattered, and those wounds are not easily healed.  Feelings of anger, mistrust, and betrayal are not repaired quickly or without work.  We know that every married woman's desire is to be in a relationship that is built on trust, secure in knowing that her husband is faithful to her in every way.  For that reason we have established our three-day Every Heart Restored program within the Healing Is a Choice weekend intensive, which is designed to help a wife in this situation understand her role in her husband's struggle and recovery.

In the Every Heart Restored weekend workshop attendees hear Steve Arterburn present his Healing is a Choice material in six general sessions.  After each main session attendees participate in small group counseling sessions led by a licensed Christian counselor. The program begins on Friday afternoon and ends around noon on Sunday. The workshop includes the program and materials, lodging, and meals.  Women are welcome to attend this seminar whether or not their husbands have completed the Every Man's Battle program.  This workshop is held every third month in regional locations.


I hope this helps. Please let us know how things are going. We will be praying for you.
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Hello jdavidson, :)

God bless you my sister. 

Here are a few questions & I pray that what I'll share will help you:

How strong is your faith in God?  Do you "really" know Him?

I've asked you these questions because we often find ourselves in strange & hurtful circumstances  - "not" because we do not know how to pray (asking our God for what we may "think" we want), or we do not know how to go to church.  Often as Christians, we find ourselves in a "mess" because our relationship with our Deity has become disjointed / disconnected, and the product of our own disconnection tends to manifest itself in the choices that we make.

So my sista', I'll ask you again ... How strong is your faith in God? 

Do you know who He is ... where He is ... what we mean when we stress the importance of maintaining a strong connection with Him?  Oh yes, perhaps you can readily answer all or most of these questions now ... Amen?  Because surely after you've been through all that you have, more than likely, if you had it to do over again ... you would have NEVER gone anywhere near this man. 

But what about "THE - MAN" - GOD???  The God that was there long before you met your husband!  The One that speaks to us ALWAYS ... even when we are too messed up to hear Him! Yes - What about God?

Right now, you want answers & I don't blame you 'cause I would too!  Yet, what if the answers that you may think that you want ... may not help?  What if the answer(s) - the solution to the situation that you've gotten yourself & your daughter into, lies in the strengthening of your own relationship with Jesus The Christ?

Because I agree with sister "sagesong", you "do" need to go to God. 

Here, we talk about the need for family therapy with site info. & maybe this would be good for both you & your husband, but sista', my only advice to you would be to gain or regain a strong and unmovable faith connection with God Himself!  How else can you even have a prayer of a chance to come out of this horrible situation?

Yes your husband is a minister & so perhaps you thought that you were safe from all that you are now faced with.  Did you know that some "men & women of the cloth" have & hold onto demons too?  Trust me when I tell you ... you would be shocked at some of the disgusting things that some of these people who've chosen to lead the church ... hold in their spirits.  We read about this stuff daily, don't we?  Does this mean that we are supposed to shun ALL leaders in God's House?  Of course it doesn't! 

Then what do we do?

I'm led that we as Christ -Followers, are to attain & maintain a REAL, a healthy-working relationship with God and have no fear when it comes to obeying His voice.  Because His voice will ALAWYS protect us ... even from ourselves and our own mistakes..

Now this may seem selfish & I guess it is ...  :-[

BUT ...

Yes intercede through prayer for your husband ... AFTER you have asked God for & YOU have received ... YOUR "own" healing ... right where you are!  Because you do have a precious child who is watching & loving you.

From my heart,


Gracious
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You need to go to God.  Get in his face.   If you need to separate from your husband to allow room for God to work in and on him then do so.  In the meantime, you can intercede on his behalf.   

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